Charlie Kirk has been shot in Utah

[Marie Mallory]

I had read that Charlie Kirk was very concerned lately that he was being targeted for assassination, similar to how JFK Jr. was, because Hillary Clinton wanted that congressional seat and was afraid she would lose to JFK JR. Many people still believe that he faked the plane crash and went into hiding with his wife, to avoid being assassinated in some way by the Clintons.

It is possible that Charlie might have tried to do the same thing, even though it would probably mean he would have to be in hiding somewhere for quite a while, if not for the rest of his life.
His wife, Erika, may be one of those people who can pull themselves out of the grief and carry on, just like Jackie Kennedy did after the JFK assassination, and I misunderstood what she was saying about Charlie watching a TikTok video that morning. I have not been able to find that video clip since then.
I would like to hope that he is alive somewhere in hiding and will somehow be able to see his family again, but it is way more likely that he was actually killed.

Charlie was becoming very famous and loved by many, first thing I thought of was who was afraid of him taking the title from who's kid or political favorite.
Then I've always been a conspiracy type, and why not, if you aren't ,your not paying attention to what's going on.
Yvonne they made us this way with all the crapola they keep putting out.

 

[Susannah]

The following is available publicly.

Erika Kirk, the widow of Turning Point USA co-founder Charlie Kirk, has lived much of her adult life in the public eye — first as Miss Arizona USA, later as a ministry leader and entrepreneur, and most recently as a wife and mother who shared her husband’s outspoken Christian faith.

A baptized Catholic who attended Notre Dame Preparatory High School in Scottsdale, Arizona, Erika Kirk currently hosts a podcast called "Midweek Rise Up." It's described on her website as a devotional series released every Wednesday, along with Monday Meditations, "to provide you that deep breath of, ‘God’s got this.’"

The website says each episode "is intentionally and prayerfully crafted with words of encouragement to push you, Biblical leadership to challenge you, and God-breathed Scripture to posture your heart for the best that’s yet to come."

Charlie’s wife shared his mission.

 

[Shadowman]

Among the many stories now circulating:

The killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk has reignited attention on a long-simmering feud within elements of the far right, particularly between Kirk and the so-called "Groyper" movement led by white nationalist Nick Fuentes.

Kirk was shot and killed on September 10 during an appearance at Utah Valley University. As authorities investigate the motive, online speculation has turned toward extremist factions that once targeted Kirk—specifically, Fuentes' "Groyper Army," which has long accused him of being insufficiently radical.

Despite his confrontational style, Kirk was frequently attacked from the right for being too moderate. During the 2019 "Groyper Wars," Fuentes' supporters disrupted Turning Point USA events, challenging Kirk on immigration and LGBTQ rights while labeling him a "gatekeeper" of establishment conservatism.

What is a 'groyper? What to know about Nick Fuentes' alt-right movement

Fuentes' band of extremist followers take their name from the underbelly of internet meme culture.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Yes, there is a bubbling cauldron of such disinformation coming out of the festering pit of "Bluesky," the radical left's answer to X (Twitter).

 

[Shadowman]

The right is doing back flips trying to turn the shooter into a radical leftist. Perhaps raising a child in a republican home and culture sometimes goes awry.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

I think living with a homosexual who was in the process of body-modification "transition" to "female" tells us something.

 

[Axel Slingerland]

The right typically doesn't have shred of evidence to back up their accusations, but since it's all part of the con so it doesn't matter. They believe it, so therefore to them, it must be true. How many times did you hear Trump shouting "Lock Her Up!" about Hillary Clinton in 2015? Then ask yourself why she was never locked up. My old Pappy used to say "There are two political parties, Right, Left and Wrong. Which party do you want to join?"

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

The result of this, perhaps intended all along, may be more intensive censorship on campuses. Limiting debate to echo chambers could be useful in regaining the Marxist grip on young minds.

WHY I BELIEVE THE KILLING OF CHARLIE KIRK WILL NOW LEAD TO WAR

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

JSU Forensics expert shares insight on Charlie Kirk shooting

 

[Marie Mallory]

After Senator Nancy Pelosi’s husband Paul Pelosi was bludgeoned and left with a skull fracture, Charlie Kirk asked his listeners to bail out Pelosi’s attacker. After Representative Melissa Hortman, her husband and their dog were murdered by a right-wing fanatic in Minnesota, Kirk tried to link Gov. Walz and other Democrats to the murders. It sounds like he was an advocate of the very kind of violence that killed him.

Maybe she should have chosen a stronger man to attack her hubby,. Just kidding ,I think.

 

[Marie Mallory]

This man was good for the young and their future.
Not so sure his widow will be as 'efficient' as he was. Hope so.

 

[Marie Mallory]

I don't trust anyone these days or their stories. I did have some hope in Charlie though, more so than anyone else.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

There is a reason the anti-civilization forces who want a return to Marxist feudalism have gained political and media power. It is their pandering to society's victim class and the emotion-driven fools with unsatisfied parental instincts who buzz around such "victims" like flies though typically wouldn't soil their lily hands by actually coming near them. That is exactly what led to the Peoples' Republic of China and the U.S.S.R., the People's Democratic Republic of North Korea and the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and so many other Communist regimes gaining power.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Well, I already opened my trap earlier on.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

In for a penny, in for a pound.

 

[Don Alaska]

This sort of view bothers me a bit.

Such "kids" are legally adults in almost every way. We need to stop infantilizing them if we want them to be responsible adults.

Stevens T. Mason, for example, became the acting territorial governor of Michigan in 1834 at the age of 22. He was later the first governor of Michigan, serving from 1835 to 1840. After leaving office he moved to New York City to practice law.

Like it or not, and ignoring the irrelevancy of today's prolonged lives that we enjoy... biologically, human beings are middle-aged at 35 years. That has not changed. When a woman gets pregnant at 35 this is medically referred to as a geriatric pregnancy, though today they use more politically correct nomenclature publicly.

Sorry to overreact, but this is probably the source of many societal woes. We need to expect more of our young adults.

Charlie began his campaign when he was around 20 years old. He dropped out of college to try to open the dialogue in American politics. His work was what was envisaged when the First Amendment was written--nonviolent discussion of difficult political topics. He was killed by a man who had been influenced by the hate speech on MSNBC and other places. He apparently realized his error and confessed to his father who reportedly turned him in to authorities. Can you imagine how difficult that was for the dad to turn his son in for a crime he knew could result in the death penalty? I don't feel sorry for the shooter as all, but I think his family is being left out of much of this discussion. Could I turn my son in for such a crime? I honestly don't know.

I think there should be action in Congress to prohibit speech advocating violence. It was not the intent of the Founders to cover violent speech with the First Amendment, but nonviolent political speech was intended to be covered.

 

[Don Alaska]

In for a penny, in for a pound.

The video raises a lot of questions. I am not knowledgeable enough to judge the narrator's analysis. If the Mossad did this, the FBI would certainly cover it up as the anti-Jewish backlash would be significant.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

The video raises a lot of questions. I am not knowledgeable enough to judge the narrator's analysis. If the Mossad did this, the FBI would certainly cover it up as the anti-Jewish backlash would be significant.

Well just for starters, if the death shot did indeed enter from the area of his right ear the entire kid-on-the-roof story falls apart.