Whew. Amish Persecution?

[Jacob Petersheim]

I hadn't really made the connection with Biden's war on raw milk, and I didn't realize the Canadian bureaucracy was so clueless. But is this really just incompetence, or a real threat and jihad on any kind of rural lifestyle?

Amish got burned for not having some Canadian tracking app on a smart phone when re-entering the country. $6000 fines that piled up and quickly became liens on their property.

Short video, under 5 minutes:

 

[Yvonne Smith]

That is an interesting video, Jacob ! I had not heard about that app for people entering Canada either. I imagine many of these people have either moved because of this, or are at least considering moving, perhaps to the United States.
Now that the Obama/Biden era is over, and we are starting to look out for people’s rights to healthy food, thanks to HHS Kennedy, moving to the US might be a good idea for some of these Amish people.

We have not been able to purchase raw milk hee for years. I can remember back in the late 60’s, and I lived in western Washington State, they first made it law that farmers could not sell their raw milk privately. We had been stopping at a nearby farm every week and getting a gallon of rich fresh milk, and were told that they could no longer sell it.
A couple of weeks went by, and then the sign was back out at the gate, but it now said “milk for pets”, which was perfectly fine to sell. It is starting to look like we will be changing those laws and people can buy raw milk again.
I remember reading about some of these farms that were Amish here in the United States and were raided under Biden. President Trump supports our farmers, so I am expecting that not to happen anymore.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

It seems odd that such a small segment of society has to put up with so much crap. The choices of the peaceful Amish seem to me to be the heart of what a free America is about.

But most people seem barely aware of them, so targeting their small numbers seems odd. That's why I wonder if it isn't really about attacking any lifestyle that varies from what is "planned" for everyone at some level for some reasons.

Could it be about shoving us all into dense warrens, freeing the bulk of the land for the wealthy and exploitative corporations? What else might it be? True xenophobia?

What ever happened to the embrace of diversity we've heard so much about?

 

[Yvonne Smith]

In north Idaho, where I lived before, we had the Mennonites, which are a similar group to the Amish, except they live in regular homes with electricity, have cars, and pretty much everything that other people have.
They are a big part of the community there, and own businesses just like anyone else, although many are farmers.

None of the Amish had the covid shot, or probably any other vaccines, which is part of the reason that Biden was after them so hard for anything he could find. I think a lot of them voted for the first time , in order to help get President Trump elected again, becasue everything just kept getting worse for the Amish under Biden.

 

[Susannah]

Canada is a socialist government. What they did to the Amish is disgusting.

I do think pasteurizing milk is a necessary thing on a large scale but I think it could be handled for a group like the Amish with frequent testing of the cows. I was raised on raw milk. We had a Jersey cow and she was milked twice a day. My mother shared the excess milk with neighbors but didn’t sell any commercially.

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[Don Alaska]

As far as I know, TB is essentially unheard of among goats, but it is generally not legal to sell raw goat milk either. The Amish uproar about raw milk was about selling it across state lines. That gave the Feds a way into the issue. Some states allow raw milk sales and some do not. The Amish have been persecuted for decades, and that is part of what keeps them together.

Canada has become a rather terrible place, but many Canadians don't even realize how the government is monitoring their lives. Canada doesn't have freedom of speech or freedom of religion as far as I know as the U.S. has written into the Constitution--a WONDERFUL DOCUMENT--so religious groups such as the Amish can more easily be persecuted there. Biden et al. would have loved to have a tracking app to track our health, vax status, and whereabouts as Canada apparently does, but it wouldn't have easily passed the courts here.

 

[Mary Stetler]

That is an interesting video, Jacob ! I had not heard about that app for people entering Canada either. I imagine many of these people have either moved because of this, or are at least considering moving, perhaps to the United States.
Now that the Obama/Biden era is over, and we are starting to look out for people’s rights to healthy food, thanks to HHS Kennedy, moving to the US might be a good idea for some of these Amish people.

We have not been able to purchase raw milk hee for years. I can remember back in the late 60’s, and I lived in western Washington State, they first made it law that farmers could not sell their raw milk privately. We had been stopping at a nearby farm every week and getting a gallon of rich fresh milk, and were told that they could no longer sell it.
A couple of weeks went by, and then the sign was back out at the gate, but it now said “milk for pets”, which was perfectly fine to sell. It is starting to look like we will be changing those laws and people can buy raw milk again.
I remember reading about some of these farms that were Amish here in the United States and were raided under Biden. President Trump supports our farmers, so I am expecting that not to happen anymore.

Here in Wisconsin it has been against the law for as long as I have been here--over 50 years. I believe is is the milk processing companies that were behind the law getting passed. Money talks. I know it was not for health reasons as I am still alive after getting milk at the dairy farm I worked at for a long time.

 

[Marie Mallory]

As far as I know, TB is essentially unheard of among goats, but it is generally not legal to sell raw goat milk either. The Amish uproar about raw milk was about selling it across state lines. That gave the Feds a way into the issue. Some states allow raw milk sales and some do not. The Amish have been persecuted for decades, and that is part of what keeps them together.

Canada has become a rather terrible place, but many Canadians don't even realize how the government is monitoring their lives. Canada doesn't have freedom of speech or freedom of religion as far as I know as the U.S. has written into the Constitution--a WONDERFUL DOCUMENT--so religious groups such as the Amish can more easily be persecuted there. Biden et al. would have loved to have a tracking app to track our health, vax status, and whereabouts as Canada apparently does, but it wouldn't have easily passed the courts here.

Reminds me of the Trinity scene at the Amish compound,

 

[Marie Mallory]

Here in Wisconsin it has been against the law for as long as I have been here--over 50 years. I believe is is the milk processing companies that were behind the law getting passed. Money talks. I know it was not for health reasons as I am still alive after getting milk at the dairy farm I worked at for a long time.

Well Mary if they want to live separately then they need to do just that. We have laws for business, and one is license to sell to the public. Also health laws.
if they want to sell to us heathens then they have to go by our rules.