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U.S. attacks Iran

Don Alaska

Don Alaska

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Trump has posted on Truth Social that three Iranian nuclear sites were struck by B-2 bombers and their escorts, and all planes left Iranian airspace unimpeded. There were reports in some media outlets that as may as 6 B-2s were used in the raid. Russia and China seem to be silent so far.
 
It sounds like Trump has also been dealing with leaks somewhere within the White House too. Perhaps the leaker(s) are sympathetic with the Rand Paul faction, perhaps the Republican Establishment faction.
 
I am totally against Iran having nuclear weapons. Hillary sent them Uranium and Obama sent them money, so they both wanted to see Iran have nuclear bombs. I think that if they had them, they would be using them to kill people, and i am glad that President Trump bombed the nuclear facilities, and did it with no loss of life to either us or the Iranian people.

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No pun intended, but you can't put that genie back into the bottle.

People dream of everyone eliminating their nuclear weapons. Nobody who creates them and the infrastructure to build more ever does. I'm not sure they can because any trust is eroded.

It really does feel as if some greater forces will never be happy to see the people of the world turn and tend to their own gardens in peace. As a lower-stakes example, just look at the ongoing nutjobbery running wild in Canada these days.
 
One "expert" I saw who was part of the Clinton Administration--forget the name--said that Clinton had a similar opportunity with North Korea and chose not to bomb them. They said if he had done so, we might not have a nuclear North Korea. It might also have kept nukes out of the hands of Pakistan as I think they got much of their technology from North Korea.
 
Now I have heard commentators speak of the idea that this attack may also make China think hard about any attacks on Taiwan or the Philippines. The world got used to the idea that attacks on the U.S. and its allies would go unanswered. Iran attacked U.S. military bases several hundred times during the Biden Administration with no response whatsoever despite pleas from CENTCOM to be allowed to take at least defensive measures and retaliation. That could be why Iran was so resistant to undertake serious negotiations. Iran has threatened retaliatory attacks against the U.S. so we will have to see what form those attacks take in future days, months, or years if the regime lasts that long.
 
A lot of people seem to think Iran had plenty of warning and basically moved all of the critical nuclear weapon manufacturing process to some other location. So the bombs may have been pointless aside from inciting Iranians even more against the US.

I'm not sure how much was leaking of plans, because I think Rand Paul spoke out against pretty much what occurred more than 2 weeks ago now. So Iran probably had plenty of time to relocate and obscure its nuclear weapons program.

Gritting my teeth hoping we don't see retaliation on US soil.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
A lot of people seem to think Iran had plenty of warning and basically moved all of the critical nuclear weapon manufacturing process to some other location. So the bombs may have been pointless aside from inciting Iranians even more against the US.

I'm not sure how much was leaking of plans, because I think Rand Paul spoke out against pretty much what occurred more than 2 weeks ago now. So Iran probably had plenty of time to relocate and obscure its nuclear weapons program.

Gritting my teeth hoping we don't see retaliation on US soil.
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You cannot move those centrifuges, and Israel would like nothing more than to see Iran TRY to move them, as they would then be above ground and they could get at them. I am pretty sure they didn't move those centrifuges. I don't know if they are destroyed. Iran thought they were safe underground. It is possible the Iranians have other facilities that Israel and the U.S. don't know about.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
A lot of people seem to think Iran had plenty of warning and basically moved all of the critical nuclear weapon manufacturing process to some other location. So the bombs may have been pointless aside from inciting Iranians even more against the US.

I'm not sure how much was leaking of plans, because I think Rand Paul spoke out against pretty much what occurred more than 2 weeks ago now. So Iran probably had plenty of time to relocate and obscure its nuclear weapons program.

Gritting my teeth hoping we don't see retaliation on US soil.
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I have now seen that the Iranians did move some of the enriched uranium out of the bunkers, but the Israelis have tracked that to the new storage and will shortly destroy that storage. The centrifuges were not moved as far as can be determined, so they probably were destroyed.
 
Spin I'm hearing out of the UK is that the leftist media there are trying to paint Trump's actions with the brush of Bush-Cheney in 2003. The claim is that forced regime change is the goal, and that occupation is just a matter of time toward that end. In other words, another long-term and expensive quagmire.
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
Spin I'm hearing out of the UK is that the leftist media there are trying to paint Trump's actions with the brush of Bush-Cheney in 2003. The claim is that forced regime change is the goal, and that occupation is just a matter of time toward that end. In other words, another long-term and expensive quagmire.
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Trump has put out thoughts of taking on other countries but it is not his plan. It gets people to THINK and discuss. The Bank of England is more of a threat. The WEF and now the Bilderbergs has resurfaced and gotten stronger under 'Biden'. World control by elites, not governments.
Trump went to the middle east to promote TRADE--not takeover. He wants sovereignty of countries--borders. He suggested Greenland and Canada become part of the US and it made the PEOPLE of Greenland and Canada think they could actually make their own decisions after facing that.
Tariffs forward and back is to get fairness for us by those who have been charging tariffs forever, paying for most of NATO, the Panama Canal that made a short cut for trade between the oceans...That China was moving in on under Biden...
The Gulf of America was to that because Biden made an EO that no drilling could be done in the Gulf of Mexico for years.
Trump has many goals to MAGA and the world and he is fighting on all sides by those who don't see it and, worse, by those who do.
 
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Yeah, anti-Trumpers have dragged up Canada, Greenland, and Panama hooting that he'd made military takeover threats to all 3. As far as I can tell only Panama even comes close to that, and in all three cases it was about US defense, not takeovers and regime change.

"Haters gonna hate."
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
Yeah, anti-Trumpers have dragged up Canada, Greenland, and Panama hooting that he'd made military takeover threats to all 3. As far as I can tell only Panama even comes close to that, and in all three cases it was about US defense, not takeovers and regime change.

"Haters gonna hate."
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Well, seeing that we paid for it, built it and many Americans died doing it, Why shouldn't we take over. We sold it to Panama for one dollar w/ stipulation. But Trump did not want to do that either.
 
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