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That's the Way It Crumbles, Cookie-Wise

My Uncle was a Union painter, and lived by the rule "for electrical, hire an electrician, for carpentry, hire a carpenter, for painting....." well, you get the idea. He wasn't much for DIY, back then. So I'm not sure if a carpenter who takes on painting is a good idea. Unk worked in the Pittsburgh School District and was varnishing gymnasium floors and painting schoolrooms. I remember him as a professional painter and ended up with a few ancient step ladders, an an adjustable scaffold and his bib overalls and painter's hat. He was a great guy, and like a second Dad. He was Irish and went to Mass every morning, before work, and planned to repaint every room in the house when he retired. He died at the age of 66 and never got to do it. His name was Charles, but we called him Unk.
 
Nancy Hart said:
Yeah, I turn the brush upside down, hold the bristles apart, and run water down into the brush to get the paint out from inside. Some say that's not good for the handle. The wood can swell up when too wet and get damaged. I have a brush comb but can't ever find it when I need it. Don't use oil based anything except as a primer/ stain block sometimes, and use a throw away brush.

Your shoulder injury sounds just like mine. I'm not too optimistic. How could your chiropractor support anything with tape? :confused: :) I don't want any surgery if at all possible. If a tendon is severed, they drill a hole all the way through your arm bone and anchor the tendon with a clip on the back side. :eek: I think I need to work on increasing range of motion, but don't want to do it in a way that makes things worse, so I'd like to know exactly what's wrong.

(Thanks for the comments, @Don Alaska )
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The tendon wasn't torn, just the ligament holding the tendon in place. Tape is used often to add support to injuries. It isn't regular tape. It is this stuff:

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I have had two ligament tears in old age. The more serious was one in my foot that was spontaneous while cutting trees with a chainsaw. It popped while stepping over a log and produced little pain. I had to take a person to the airport, and when I stepped onto the parking deck concreter, suddenly I couldn't walk. That injury was "booted" and followed by physical therapy after 6 weeks of immobilization. That, too, was a near-surgical intervention.

I wash the well of the brush as you do.
 
"What a revolting development this is." - Chester A. Riley

While I was still applying the first coat of ceiling paint in the bathroom, large air bubbles started forming in two spots. :eek: .I thought the whole ceiling might bubble up before I finished, but it stopped with just the 2 spots. While the paint was still tacky, you could peel it off the ceiling in one spot like a rubbery skin. The bubbles at the other spot disappeared. By the time the paint dried, I couldn't even find them. :confused:

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A second coat of paint forced the "disappeared" spot to bubble up again so I could mark it this time. Underneath the peeling paint was a thick layer of white dust---powdered joint compound. I either (1) missed a spot applying the drywall primer, or (2) found a flaw, patched it later and forgot to prime again over that spot. None of that would have happened if they made drywall primer with pink vanishing color, like the pink spackle. :sneaky:

Both spots are almost finished good as new. Just have to wait for layers to dry. Sure hope there were only 2 bad patches. 🤞 This Sherwin-Williams paint seems like good stuff.
 
Joe Riley said:
My Uncle was a Union painter, and lived by the rule "for electrical, hire an electrician, for carpentry, hire a carpenter, for painting....." well, you get the idea. He wasn't much for DIY, back then. So I'm not sure if a carpenter who takes on painting is a good idea. Unk worked in the Pittsburgh School District and was varnishing gymnasium floors and painting schoolrooms. I remember him as a professional painter and ended up with a few ancient step ladders, an an adjustable scaffold and his bib overalls and painter's hat. He was a great guy, and like a second Dad. He was Irish and went to Mass every morning, before work, and planned to repaint every room in the house when he retired. He died at the age of 66 and never got to do it. His name was Charles, but we called him Unk.
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I bet those ladders weigh a ton. I still have my dad's wooden extension ladder. Can't even lift it. Does the hat fit?

One summer as soon as school let out my mom put me to helping her refinish the hardwood floor in one bedroom. We sanded and sanded. Then she painted likely with varnish or shellac. One of the primers I'm using now is shellac based. Nothing I have takes it off your hands. The solvent is supposed to be denatured alcohol. I tried Old Crow but it didn't work. :( Too much nature?

Of my 5 uncles who lived in Akron, 4 worked in a rubber factory and the 5th was an attorney. None of us got together that often. Everyone was too busy. My father clearly had a favorite uncle---Uncle Amos. He lived some distance away in Ohio, but when they got together they always had a good time.
 
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Nancy Hart said:
I bet those ladders weigh a ton. I still have my dad's wooden extension ladder. Can't even lift it. Does the hat fit?

One summer as soon as school let out my mom put me to helping her refinish the hardwood floor in one bedroom. We sanded and sanded. Then she painted likely with varnish or shellac. One of the primers I'm using now is shellac based. Nothing I have takes it off your hands. The solvent is supposed to be denatured alcohol. I tried Old Crow but it didn't work. :( Too much nature?

Of my 5 uncles who lived in Akron, 4 worked in a rubber factory and the 5th was an attorney. None of us got together that often. Everyone was too busy. My father clearly had a favorite uncle---Uncle Amos. He lived some distance away in Ohio, but when they got together they always had a good time.
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The two stepladders were short, around 4 ft high. I used them to support the scaffold (looked like a large six ft rule that was folded up)
I had to snip the back of the painter's hat so it would fit. He did help my Dad paint our house and did the high trim on a ladder that was ancient, & super heavy! He had served in the Navy, and wrote me a couple of letters when I was in basic training at Fort Knox in 1964. He always called me "Mate". He and my Aunt Hazel never had children, and they lived close by.
 
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Two more interruptions this week. It's no wonder I'm getting mixed up on primer. After the bubble incident there is no need to paint anywhere without primer, and glue may not stick without it either. I should have kept a journal with diagrams.

Thursday: .Dentist appointment. One new tooth and a new crown. Teeth are my foolish indulgence.
Friday:. MRI. Piece of cake---25 minutes in the tube playing 70s music I never heard before. I just bet it will show nothing conclusive. More tests? :rolleyes:
 
Nancy Hart said:
I didn't always hate painting. My mother made me help paint walls as soon as I was tall enough. I thought it was a big deal to do grown up stuff.

At one time I could cut in around the ceiling with right or left hand. But somewhere along the line they started making paint dry as fast as possible, as if that was important. I suppose if you're a paint contractor and want to do 2 coats, collect your money and move on to the next job, it would be. The preparation and clean up are more than half the job anyway. That doesn't change, just because the paint dries faster, does it?

Try cutting in at the ceiling with a brush now. The paint dries on your brush, brush won't slide along, brush strokes start to show because paint has become too thick to self-level. And it ruins a good brush to let it dry out that much. You really should stop and wash out your brushes before you even finish one small room.

Now they sell paint additives to counteract the fast drying. :rolleyes: Claim to increase the working time by 10-15 minutes. I'm painting the bathroom ceiling with real ceiling paint today with one of those additives. We'll see if it works.

I can also remember when painting a ceiling with a roller meant you ended up with tiny paint spray spatters all over your hair, face and eyeglasses.

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Nancy, maybe that is why painters wear hats, to protect from the splats?
 
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"The Painter's Hat"​

On the canvas of the sky,
The painter wears his hat,
A palette of colors swirled,
In the brush strokes of his hat.
His hat is his muse,
His shield against the sun,
A crown of creativity,
As he paints the world undone.
 
(5/20/25) Rewinding to Tuesday

The clinic rescheduled the shoulder MRI follow up appointment to Tuesday, instead of today. This is how it went down.

Mostly good news according to the doctor, who merely translated a report from the radiologist. They couldn't find any tears of tendons or ligaments, just some fraying on the edges, which is normal with age. No mention of impingement. The bicep tendon was in its proper place when they did the MRI. The ligament that holds it in place is too thin to detect with an MRI unless the technician is told to look for it.

If nothing is wrong, why hasn't it gotten any better in almost a year? Doc said I must be doing something that keeps the shoulder irritated. His only suggestion was a steroid shot. I told him I'd think about it. Offered no recommendation even for physical therapy or exercises to regain strength. That surprised me.

Shouldn't I at least try increasing the range of motion? And if so, how do I know what to do so I don't make things worse? He said if the tendon of the long arm of the bicep is really slipping in and out of the groove where it belongs (called "subluxation"), the constant movement may eventually cause that tendon to break, but the other tendon will still be attached, so it's not a big deal. And the pain will stop if that happens, so don't worry about hurting anything.

Then he proceeds to tell me a story about John Elway.

Mr. Elway (QB for the Denver Broncos in the 90s) experienced bicep tendon injury before the 1998 season. Constant irritation finally caused the bicep tendon to break. Elway had no more pain, and the Broncos went on to win the Super Bowl that year and the next. (corrected)

After thinking about this for 2 days:

I don't really disagree with the doctor's evaluation, because from his point of view, based only on the MRI report, nothing is seriously wrong. But his advice to not worry about making things worse is rather silly and flippant, imo. Of course I didn't tell him that. But I think it means he thinks this is all in my head and not my shoulder.

I've been trying to make up my own plan for regaining strength and range of motion without being stupid about it. If nothing changes in a month or so, I may try to get a second opinion. An ultrasound which shows what happens with movement would be preferred to an MRI. I would just like to know what's causing the constant snapping, popping, and clunking, if possible, so I can come up with the best plan.
 
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Nancy Hart said:
(5/20/25) Rewinding to Tuesday

The clinic rescheduled the shoulder MRI follow up appointment to Tuesday, instead of today. This is how it went down.

Mostly good news according to the doctor, who merely translated a report from the radiologist. They couldn't find any tears of tendons or ligaments, just some fraying on the edges, which is normal with age. No mention of impingement. The bicep tendon was in its proper place when they did the MRI. The ligament that holds it in place is too thin to detect with an MRI unless the technician is told to look for it.

If nothing is wrong, why hasn't it gotten any better in almost a year? Doc said I must be doing something that keeps the shoulder irritated. His only suggestion was a steroid shot. I told him I'd think about it. Offered no recommendation even for physical therapy or exercises to regain strength. That surprised me.

Shouldn't I at least try increasing the range of motion? And if so, how do I know what to do so I don't make things worse? He said if the tendon of the long arm of the bicep is really slipping in and out of the groove where it belongs (called "subluxation"), the constant movement may eventually cause that tendon to break, but the other tendon will still be attached, so it's not a big deal. And the pain will stop if that happens, so don't worry about hurting anything.

Then he proceeds to tell me a story about John Elway.

Mr. Elway (QB for the Denver Broncos in the 90s) experienced bicep subluxation before the 1998 season. Constant irritation finally caused the bicep tendon to break. Elway had no more pain, and the Broncos went on to win the Super Bowl that year and the next.

After thinking about this for 2 days:

I don't really disagree with the doctor's evaluation, because from his point of view, based only on the MRI report, nothing is seriously wrong. But his advice to not worry about making things worse is rather silly and flippant, imo. Of course I didn't tell him that. But I think it means he thinks this is all in my head and not my shoulder.

I've been trying to make up my own plan for regaining strength and range of motion without being stupid about it. If nothing changes in a month or so, I may try to get a second opinion. An ultrasound which shows what happens with movement would be preferred to an MRI. I would just like to know what's causing the constant snapping, popping, and clunking, if possible, so I can come up with the best plan.
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This site really helped hubby and I over the last few years. We try to stay away from doctors unless something we can't fix.
Ever since they have been our go to for any kind of muscle or joint injury.
Amazing how much we improved just by doing their recommended therapy.

 
Thanks Marie. I'm familiar with Bob and Brad. Their video was where I first learned how to fix vertigo years ago. I didn't know Bob was ill. He was apparently diagnosed with ataxia 2 years ago. Such a gracious individual. He comments that many of their patients are much worse off than he, so send them your good vibes first. A recent video shows he has gotten much worse. :(

I'm sure posture is important too. Everything ties together. The shoulder is very complicated. B&B have one video on bicep tendonitis I'm trying. Very conservative. My strategy may be all wrong, but I think the thing is to first work on the bicep tendon, so it starts repairing itself properly. I'm trying to avoid anything that causes popping and snapping for now, because that may be the irritation causing inflammation and making this persist. We'll see.
 
Nancy Hart said:
(5/20/25) Rewinding to Tuesday

The clinic rescheduled the shoulder MRI follow up appointment to Tuesday, instead of today. This is how it went down.

Mostly good news according to the doctor, who merely translated a report from the radiologist. They couldn't find any tears of tendons or ligaments, just some fraying on the edges, which is normal with age. No mention of impingement. The bicep tendon was in its proper place when they did the MRI. The ligament that holds it in place is too thin to detect with an MRI unless the technician is told to look for it.

If nothing is wrong, why hasn't it gotten any better in almost a year? Doc said I must be doing something that keeps the shoulder irritated. His only suggestion was a steroid shot. I told him I'd think about it. Offered no recommendation even for physical therapy or exercises to regain strength. That surprised me.

Shouldn't I at least try increasing the range of motion? And if so, how do I know what to do so I don't make things worse? He said if the tendon of the long arm of the bicep is really slipping in and out of the groove where it belongs (called "subluxation"), the constant movement may eventually cause that tendon to break, but the other tendon will still be attached, so it's not a big deal. And the pain will stop if that happens, so don't worry about hurting anything.

Then he proceeds to tell me a story about John Elway.

Mr. Elway (QB for the Denver Broncos in the 90s) experienced bicep subluxation before the 1998 season. Constant irritation finally caused the bicep tendon to break. Elway had no more pain, and the Broncos went on to win the Super Bowl that year and the next.

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Get another opinion.:unsure:
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Bonus:
John Elway’s hand problem
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Nancy Hart said:
Thanks Marie. I'm familiar with Bob and Brad. Their video was where I first learned how to fix vertigo years ago. I didn't know Bob was ill. He was apparently diagnosed with ataxia 2 years ago. Such a gracious individual. He comments that many of their patients are much worse off than he, so send them your good vibes first. A recent video shows he has gotten much worse. :(

I'm sure posture is important too. Everything ties together. The shoulder is very complicated. B&B have one video on bicep tendonitis I'm trying. Very conservative. My strategy may be all wrong, but I think the thing is to first work on the bicep tendon, so it starts repairing itself properly. I'm trying to avoid anything that causes popping and snapping for now, because that may be the irritation causing inflammation and making this persist. We'll see.
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Nancy, they have been very helpful to us past couple years. Hope your shoulder gets better soon, mine cracks at times when I exercise so I stop till it stops, also now I slowly start off till I feel comfortable it will be ok to continue.
 
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