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Rioting in California !

It sounds like Marines have been sent in to help guard Federal buildings. I thought that was what the National Guard had been sent in to do, but nothing seems clear - it doesn't help that the media insist on adding confusion.

I heard that the Trump/Musk feud and the BBB were fumbled, so the Dems have now chosen to double down on supporting the riots and obfuscating riot control efforts for lack of anything else to sway people. The polls on going after illegal immigrant criminals have them in a panic.
 
The whole incident brought back some old memories. I was in the Marines in the early 70s and in the Spring of1973 I was sent to Riot Control Training in Camp Pendleton. In those days Nixon was president and said to be a little paranoid ( ;-)) and had a home in Anaheim, California. Maybe he thought protestors would show up there. But even Nixon as corrupt as some saw him never panicked like Trump declaring emergencies at every turn. I would be curious as to how many of these National Guard or Marines have been through Civil Disturbance training.
 
This has actually happened several times before. Eisenhower did it because of the segregation protests, Kennedy used it in the South, and George Bush Sr. Also brought in troops to quell riots. If the illegals who are causing these riots are not stopped now, we are going to have massive ongoing rioting and looting for the rest of the year.

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No evidence has been presented that "illegals" are causing what some are calling riots. The National Guard serves a dual role in the U.S. military by serving the community and its country. Most of the time, it's under the control of individual states, with the state governor acting as commander in chief. They are called in usually by a state governor. Yes, past presidents have called up "troops" but the last legal calling up of regular federal troops was by President Johnson. The Kent State University killings in 1970 were done by the Ohio National Guard called in by the governor.
 
No evidence has been presented that "illegals" are causing what some are calling riots. The National Guard serves a dual role in the U.S. military by serving the community and its country. Most of the time, it's under the control of individual states, with the state governor acting as commander in chief. They are called in usually by a state governor. Yes, past presidents have called up "troops" but the last legal calling up of regular federal troops was by President Johnson. The Kent State University killings in 1970 were done by the Ohio National Guard called in by the governor.

I'm glad you brought that up. This reminds me so much of Kent State. Country divided (Vietnam War). Started as a small group of demonstrators Friday, May 1. Rumors of outside agitators. National Guard arrived Saturday causing more students to get involved. School officials, with Governor's backing, banned a protest rally on campus scheduled for Monday, May 4. Mass communication was more difficult back then. I remember they posted leaflets Monday morning saying groups of no more than 5 people were allowed---a challenge that's hard to resist, even if you knew about it, and many didn't.

Although The Guard members carry ammunition, it's not loaded into their rifles now. That's what many students, including me, assumed on May 4, 1970. (I was a student, but not involved in any of the demonstrations.)

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It sounds like Marines have been sent in to help guard Federal buildings. I thought that was what the National Guard had been sent in to do, but nothing seems clear - it doesn't help that the media insist on adding confusion.

I heard that the Trump/Musk feud and the BBB were fumbled, so the Dems have now chosen to double down on supporting the riots and obfuscating riot control efforts for lack of anything else to sway people. The polls on going after illegal immigrant criminals have them in a panic.
Apparently there's also protests/riots going on in Texas as well. I just come across a few posts on social media about it. I'm in Texas as well, but I didn't know that these were going on until i heard about it on social media.

Currently, Dallas and Austin texas have protests going on.
 
No evidence has been presented that "illegals" are causing what some are calling riots.
I don't know what you mean by "causing" but hampering criminal arrests of illegals is clearly the "cause" protesters have been voicing.

From what I have seen in coverage there seems to be a lot of effort being put into protests by communities housing illegal aliens who brag about "fast action" planning and lines of communication. Within the ranks of the rioters there appear to be people of all ages, not just youth looking for distraction and trying to be a part of it.

People are busting up concrete with hammers for missiles to pelt cops with, calling in automated taxis and setting them on fire, breaking into retail shops and looting... all on top of marching and running around and yelling and waving foreign flags...

Just how is this not rioting? It's quite a stretch to call it "peaceful protesting."

Even Mexico's President has been egging them on. Her motivation is clearly the "remittances" extracted from the US economy to support Mexico, and she wants "immigration reform" (blanket amnesty and fast-tracked citizenship?) to root these tentacles in place and keep the money flowing.
 
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No evidence has been presented that "illegals" are causing what some are calling riots. The National Guard serves a dual role in the U.S. military by serving the community and its country. Most of the time, it's under the control of individual states, with the state governor acting as commander in chief. They are called in usually by a state governor. Yes, past presidents have called up "troops" but the last legal calling up of regular federal troops was by President Johnson. The Kent State University killings in 1970 were done by the Ohio National Guard called in by the governor.

You are partially correct on this, in my opinion , @Shadowman , in that it is not just illegals who are causing and doing the rioting. While there are definitely a lot of illegals out there rioting, the riots are funded and led by paid professionals who may or may not be illegals. They have always used reinforcement ads in places like Craigslist to hire paid protesters, and they bus them around to wherever they want them, and supply them with signs and supples of weapons, like the piles of bricks ready to throw at police cars.

The people who are being arrested have been coming from places like Peru , El Salvador, and some of the Muslim countries, as well as Asian countries, and they are focusing the arrests on the leaders of the rioters. Most of them have long criminal records, and photos of the rioters and their records are being made public now, too. You can look at the Homeland Security website and there are pictures of the people being arrested and their criminal charges, and they are now leading the riots.

Obviously, these are not people with any kind of jobs, or they would be at work, and not out there rioting. The illegals who are here and working, are still doing that, it is the criminals who were released from prisons in other countries and came here that are burning cars and looting businesses.
I think that no one, regardless of their political leanings, wants to see people being hurt and businesses being robbed and vandalized , and this rioting needs to be stopped right now, or it is going to keep getting worse, and more cities will be destroyed.


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None of it looks very organic. It seems just as organized behind the scenes and supplied exactly as the rioting was in 2015-2017 and then again in 2020.

Right down to the black outfits and masks. Those Antifans seem to be prodding and encouraging others to participate. Once more, just as earlier.
 
None of it looks very organic. It seems just as organized behind the scenes and supplied exactly as the rioting was in 2015-2017 and then again in 2020.

Right down to the black outfits and masks. Those Antifans seem to be prodding and encouraging others to participate. Once more, just as earlier.
They are doing the same chants as at the BLM riots, also. The news is saying it is just happy people having fun watching cars burn…….. how crazy is that statement ! !
There are some self-driving cars called WAYGO, and are made by Google, from what I was reading, and they use them as taxi cabs , similar to calling an Uber, except there is no driver in the car. The rioter have been ordering the cars downtown and then torching them.
There is no sensible reason for burning these cars ! They are burning the police vehicles as well, but the little WAYGO cars weren’t involved in anything, and they are expensive , so probably google is not happy about this at all.

They have been giving them the brick pallets and other weapons, and now they are dispensing truckloads of expensive face shields. The instigators of these riots want to push it to the point where people are actually going to be shot by police. So far, they are just trying to do crowd control and arrest the leaders. I watched them go after one guy in the crowd and took him away in handcuffs, while just pushing the rest of the people out of the way, so they must know which ones they are after to arrest.

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One commentator made an interesting comparison. He said the LA riots and Newsom's and Bass's resistance to Federal agents enforcing the law reminded him of the Civil Rights Era with Newsom, a Democrat, playing the role of George Wallace, a Democrat, in resisting Federal agents enforcing Federal law. The media is portraying the violent rioters as the victims instead of foreign agitators trying to destroy American society.

I also saw one report that the LAPD has now done a pretty good job of quelling the riots by using a military-type strategy of boxing in groups of rioters and arresting them, the placing them on buses and transporting them to detention facilities. LAPD seems to be working in spite of Mayor Bass trying to obstruct them and not giving them support. I only saw one incident of a single rioter attacking Federal agents and being brought down savagely by those agents.
 

Body discovered on LA sidewalk near looted stores in the wake of anti-ICE riots​


Newsom has demanded that a judge issue a restraining order within 2 hours to stop the Marines and National Guard from being there.

Guess he thinks LAPD can handle it. Good thing it’s so peaceful. :rolleyes:
 
OK, here ya go. June 14 a MAJOR push back is set against Trump and his trying to empty the swamp, remove dangerous illegals, stop paying illegals and USAID recipients with taxpayer money, stopping other waste, fraud and abuse, end the deaths in war...
Look around the site. They seem quite organized. Hope you are not near any large cities or towns involved.
https://www.nokings.org/
In LA they were handing out some pretty sophisticated gear. Who paid for that?
The site says not to bring weapons but....
 
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OK, here ya go. June 14 a MAJOR push back is set against Trump and his trying to empty the swamp, remove dangerous illegals, stop paying illegals and USAID recipients with taxpayer money, stopping other waste, fraud and abuse, end the deaths in war...
Look around the site. They seem quite organized. Hope you are not near any large cities or towns involved.
https://www.nokings.org/
In LA they were handing out some pretty sophisticated gear. Who paid for that?
The site says not to bring weapons but....
It is apparently sponsored and paid for by Christy Walton, the heiress of the Walmart conglomerate of businesses. Here is one of the ads she put out, and you can see her name on the bottom of it.
This whole thing is being paid for my millionaires, it appears. There are some other names I have seen and do not remember right now, as having funded the riots.

It is hard to read the bottom, so I am posting just that part also. IMG_0577.jpeg

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One commentator made an interesting comparison. He said the LA riots and Newsom's and Bass's resistance to Federal agents enforcing the law reminded him of the Civil Rights Era with Newsom, a Democrat, playing the role of George Wallace,
I've also been hearing comparisons to the Nullification Crisis and South Carolina in 1832.
 

Body discovered on LA sidewalk near looted stores in the wake of anti-ICE riots​


Newsom has demanded that a judge issue a restraining order within 2 hours to stop the Marines and National Guard from being there.

Guess he thinks LAPD can handle it. Good thing it’s so peaceful. :rolleyes:
If Trump declares an insurrection, the judicial system is removed from the picture. Military tribunals take over I think.
 
Yep, that's true. But Joe Biden wouldn't declare the January 6th attack an insurrection because he didn't want people to think it was politically motivated. But I don't care. It was an attempt to overthrow the government, call it whatever you want.

I heard what Trump said about how all insurrectionists belong in jail. My question is, if he truly believes that, why did he pardon the legally tried and convicted January 6th insurrectionists? Oh, I forgot they're Republicans and it wasn't an insurrection. Silly me.
 
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