Rioting in California !

[Yvonne Smith]

There have been anti-ICE protests in California, starting in the Los Angeles area, and now spreading to more parts of the state. What started out as protests then befell more and more violent, with protesters throwing rocks and bricks at police who were trying to keep order.
Because of the protests getting more violent, more law enforcement has been sent in, and now the whole thing has turned into riots, with people setting cars on fire, attacking police, burning flags, and attacking police and police vehicles.

Tom Homan (head of ICE) is now in California, and it sounds like they will be sending in the national Guard by tonight because everything is now so out of hand and dangerous for people in the areas where the riots are happening.
This is going to step up the deportations dramatically, if the illegals are going to now stage riots. ICE has just been picking up illegals who have arrest warrants or are criminals, along with anyone who is with them; but once we have to send in actual National Guard troops, this is going to escalate rapidly, and once someone is shot or killed in some way, we could be heading for martial law, at least in places like California , where the riots are at.

Right now, they are shooting what looks like smoke bombs into the crowd to make them get back out of the streets, but once the NG gets there and several thousand more troops arrive, I think it is going to be worse.
They have already ordered the stacks of bricks to throw at police, just like they did several years ago with the antifa riots. This is not just Hispanic illegals, but also a lot of the pro-Palestine protesters that have been starting riots elsewhere.

 

[Yvonne Smith]

They are now calling it an insurrection. We have military aged men, carrying flags from other countries, and attacking our government vehicles and law enforcement personnel.
They are bringing in reinforcements from the National Guard now, and have said that if they need more, they will bring in the marines from Camp Pendleton, who are already on high alert and ready to respond if needed.
There are also riots happening in New York City, but not as bad as the ones in California. You can see the person with the Mexican flag as he rides circles around the car that they set on fire.
They are now also showing brush fires that the rioters have started, so there will probably be homes burning if this continues.

 

[Susannah]

The Los Angeles Sheriff’s Dept. moved in to help ICE agents get their prisoners out of the area and are holding the line now.


Democrat Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass faced backlash on social media Friday, including from members of the Trump administration, for pushing back on Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids targeting illegal immigrants in her city.

"This morning, we received reports of federal immigration enforcement actions in multiple locations in Los Angeles," Bass said in a statement on Friday.

"As Mayor of a proud city of immigrants, who contribute to our city in so many ways, I am deeply angered by what has taken place. These tactics sow terror in our communities and disrupt basic principles of safety in our city. My Office is in close coordination with immigrant rights community organizations. We will not stand for this.” — Karen Bass, Mayor of Los Angeles

She might as well have set her own city on fire. Speaking of fire the rioters set a car on fire earlier and recently set a field on fire.

“As the federal government conducts chaotic immigration sweeps across the country, the state is deploying additional CHP to maintain safety on Los Angeles highways to keep the peace. It's not their job to assist in federal immigration enforcement,” Gavin wrote on X. “The federal government is sowing chaos so they can have an excuse to escalate. That is not the way any civilized country behaves.” - Gov. Newsom

 

[Nancy Hart]

The Home Depot where I live has a shelter for day laborers in their parking lot. Contractors can stop and pick up temporary workers while picking up supplies. Cheap labor.

White House officials reportedly directed ICE (and other masked Federal employees) to make 3,000 arrests of undocumented migrants per day. They have to meet their quota so they are picking up easy targets. ICE raided a group of day laborers gathered at a Home Depot in Los Angeles Friday. Similarly Ice raided a court house where immigrants are required to report periodically in order to stay in the country. You wouldn't think all these hardened criminals, drug dealers, etc, would be hanging out at Home Depot, or reporting periodically to the court house.

Calling in the National Guard just adds fuel to the fire. That is the purpose.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

It isn't everyone in California, but the culture of casual lawlessness appears to be pretty pervasive from the individual level to large "planters," corporations, universities, and both local and State government. That makes it difficult to conceive of selective solutions.

So I don't know. Ultimately? Revoke statehood until the Territory can be reorganized for gradual readmission as several smaller States?

 

[Yvonne Smith]

I also read that ICE was arresting people at Home Depot when they were standing around looking for a day job; but ICE put out a bulletin that said this did not happen. The DHS facility where they were staging to get ready to pick up criminal illegals was very close to the Home Depot, so people thought they were going to arrest illegals who were there for work.

ICE has said over and over that they are focusing on people who have arrest records and even deportation records and have returned. If they are with other people who are here illegally, then those people are also arrested and deported.

Now that so many of them have decided to riot, burn the American flag, attack police and government buildings, all of those are definitely going to be arrested and deported as criminals, even if they weren’t before they attacked people and burned cars.
That was a pretty stupid thing to do if you want to live in America !

We have a lot of Hispanics in our part of town, but they are people who just want to have a better life, and they go to work and live a quiet life. Some of them are probably here legally, and the only ones who are being taken away and arrested are the gang members and ones with criminal records.
The areas who have so many of the terrorist gangs, from any country, is where we are going to have to deal with the riots most likely, and that is happening in blue states where the government officials are protecting the gang members.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Some places do a better job somehow with integration into communities than others.

We've had significant use of agricultural migrant labor in West Michigan for decades, almost a century. Large cities have had a rougher time with this, which seems to be a natural result of high concentration. Smaller towns seemed to handle this better with initial frictions giving way as cultural integration occurred and permanent settlement led to a stronger sense of ownership.

Hart Michigan is an example of this. The town's major income sources are tree fruits (apples, cherries, peaches and nectarines, plums), potatoes and asparagus, and tourism.

The town acquired a growing Hispanic population as people settled in as an offshoot of migrant farm work. There was some tension at times, but it has been a couple of decades since nearly all of that had passed. Nobody had tried to suppress anyone's heritage and traditions and with time even speaking Spanish has begun to diminish.

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As far as I can tell this parallels other integration of new immigrants in the past: German, Dutch, Polish, and more.

 

[Yvonne Smith]

There is a huge difference between people coming to America and wanting to become Americans, and the militant people who are rioting and burning things here while carrying the flags from their own country. If they love that country so much, why are they objecting to being sent back to the country that they are waving the flags from ?

None of that makes any sense. We have had Hispanic people working and living here in the United States for at least the last 50 years, and probably longer, and we never had this kind of rioting, or any kind of rioting or protests. They wanted to live here and work here and enjoy life , not attack police and burn cars and throw Molotov cocktails at the police. Why would any mayor want this kind of person living in their city ?

This is something very different than people wanting to live here and become American citizens. Can you imagine what would happen if Americans rioted like this in Mexico (or most any other country)?
Most governments would just shoot and kill any people who rioted like this in any other country, but these people seem to think that they can be legalized by attacking America , and not by the tried and true immigration process that all other immigrants went through to become an American citizen.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

How much is due to the prevailing culture they have embedded themselves in? One that seems to do everything it can to exploit them on the one hand and convince them they are congenital victims on the other?

Who has an interest in expanding the underclass, both as a source of cheap labor and to undermine the middle class and further divide the country... growing the distance between haves and have-nots? Think feudalism as the pattern for future post-industrial society.

And what is the role of a certain major church in this? One notorious for smuggling "refugees" and relocating them within the US? I've seen the below-ground sublevels beneath a major church in Chicago jam-packed with encampments of people with no legal status for entry.

 

[Don Alaska]

I also read that ICE was arresting people at Home Depot when they were standing around looking for a day job; but ICE put out a bulletin that said this did not happen. The DHS facility where they were staging to get ready to pick up criminal illegals was very close to the Home Depot, so people thought they were going to arrest illegals who were there for work.

ICE has said over and over that they are focusing on people who have arrest records and even deportation records and have returned. If they are with other people who are here illegally, then those people are also arrested and deported.

Now that so many of them have decided to riot, burn the American flag, attack police and government buildings, all of those are definitely going to be arrested and deported as criminals, even if they weren’t before they attacked people and burned cars.
That was a pretty stupid thing to do if you want to live in America !

We have a lot of Hispanics in our part of town, but they are people who just want to have a better life, and they go to work and live a quiet life. Some of them are probably here legally, and the only ones who are being taken away and arrested are the gang members and ones with criminal records.
The areas who have so many of the terrorist gangs, from any country, is where we are going to have to deal with the riots most likely, and that is happening in blue states where the government officials are protecting the gang members.

I understand that Antifa and other groups were behind much of the rioting, not simply the illegals. I think Antifa has declared this the "Summer of Action" and plan riots anywhere they can get away with it, mostly in Blue areas and sanctuary cities. It is similar to what happened during Trump's first term when they took over parts of cities and lit fires, committed arson and such in what the MSM and Dem members of Congress labeled foolishly as "mostly peaceful protests". George Floyd was the issue last time; this time it is immigration and deportation. Their real motivation is to bring down the American government.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

We don't hear much anymore about the riots with fires and brick-throwing that went on back in 2015 through 2017. Before that I'm not sure I'd ever heard the name Antifa.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

There is a huge difference between people coming to America and wanting to become Americans, and the militant people who are rioting and burning things here while carrying the flags from their own country.

This is what grinds my gears, and probably those of many Mexican-Americans as well.

Even worse is the way so many lefties play dumb and pretend they don't know the difference and can't understand that there is a difference. It breaks their narrative of victimhood and undermines calling everyone who disagrees a "racist" and "xenophobe."

 

[Don Alaska]

We don't hear much anymore about the riots with fires and brick-throwing that went on back in 2015 through 2017. Before that I'm not sure I'd ever heard the name Antifa.

Antifa in a Fascist organization that wants people to think they are antifascist when in fact the opposite is true.

 

[Yvonne Smith]

It looks to me like this is indeed very similar to the other riots we had, like the George Floyd riots, and other ones from a few years back. People are being bussed in, and there are photos of the busses doing it, signs are pre-made and not just someone writing with their marker pen, and the leaders are from all over; so this is not just a group of people from LA out there because they were mad at ICE this week.

The guy riding the motorcycle with the Mexican flag is not even Mexican, he is from one of the countries further south, I think they said he was from either El Salvador, or maybe Peru. I think they must have arrested him because they seem to have his phone, and said that it had been tracked at other antifa protests across the country, plus he was one of the ones from Kamala Harris rally busses.

They are making sure these people are armed with some kinds of weapons, like the brick pallets, and making the Molotov cocktails, and several other things that are obviously being brought in.
Even with the National Guard, law enforcement was being overwhelmed, cars were being burned, and roads and even the freeway closed, and the last I read yesterday was that they were mobilizing the marines.

This is going to turn deadly, there is no way that it can’t, and President Trump is going to have to use the military to arrest the rioters and stop the violence, stealing, and vandalism. Businesss are already closing, and more will be forced to, either from the riots or because people can’t drive to work.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Yeah, very ugly stuff. It does sound like the same playbook that was used when Hillary was running.

Are its origins European, perhaps having been fed resources via USAID and the laundry list of NGOs they wrote the checks to? Or the CCP?

It's hard to say, and people popping up pointing and shouting "Conspiracy theorist!" is par for the course. Maybe that's a possible way to winnow suspicions: when they get the loudest you know you might be onto something.

To me it is starting to feel like Trump has done "too well" and this might really be about ramping up TDS for the midterm elections. Sort of like the Biden Loves Mayhem campaign where he hid out in a basement himself instead of campaigning.

But the disruptions and fear could lead to more human tragedy once people self-impose "lockdowns" in self-preservation. No school for kids, no outdoor play, a rise in burglary and home invasions and car-jackings on top of the looting and burning of retailers. I just hope no frustrated group tries to take it upon themselves to counter-protest or intervene. We know how that gets spun every time and sometimes spirals beyond control. Let the professionals deal with restoring order.

 

[Susannah]

Here’s an article complete with names of organizations, amounts of money, photos, videos, tweets, etc., that shows how the rioters are funded and yes, it’s government money. It’s too long to paste here so I’m just leaving a link to follow if you are interested.

The author says it’s just the beginning but it looks like a lot to me.

Taxpayer-Funded Riots: Here's What We Found When We Followed the Money in Los Angeles

redstate.com

 

[Mary Stetler]

Antifa in a Fascist organization that wants people to think they are antifascist when in fact the opposite is true.

The LA Chief of police was on saying that the people rioting are basically those Antifa who go from place to place doing this. He said it wasn't the migrants doing this. He recognized some of them himself. He said it is what they do. I wonder if the people behind these paid actors are the same ones behind the large Kamala rallies bringing in people from out of town on busses.

 

[Don Alaska]

The LA Chief of police was on saying that the people rioting are basically those Antifa who go from place to place doing this. He said it wasn't the migrants doing this. He recognized some of them himself. He said it is what they do. I wonder if the people behind these paid actors are the same ones behind the large Kamala rallies bringing in people from out of town on busses.

Yeah, I think a lot of them are "professional agitators" that are at the beck-and-call of Left Wing financiers such as the Soros organization and others. They showed up at Kamala rallies and at anti-Trump demonstrations, probably including Jan 6. Many were paid through the money laundering operations that took place under the auspices of USAID

 

[Yvonne Smith]

The LA Chief of police was on saying that the people rioting are basically those Antifa who go from place to place doing this. He said it wasn't the migrants doing this. He recognized some of them himself. He said it is what they do. I wonder if the people behind these paid actors are the same ones behind the large Kamala rallies bringing in people from out of town on busses.

They can track the phones that go to these protests, and they know which ones are “professional protesters” (so to speak), and they also see the busses that are bringing those people in.
The ones they are arresting some to be from several other countries, even though they are waving the Mexican flags. Some of them have Chinese flags and also Palestinian, and other ones that I do not know what they are.
I think that the police are trying to push back the regular protesters and arrest the ones they can see are the leaders, and if they have criminal records (which most of them do……. ICE is posting pictures and info on X about some of these ringleaders they are arresting), then those are being sent off to gitmo or El Salvador , most likely.

 

[Susannah]

Trump has called in 500 Marines. As I understood what was said the Marines will be protecting federal personnel (ICE and others) and federal property. That’s what the National Guard has been doing. The rioters have attacked the LA Federal building numerous times.

LAPD will be dealing with the rioters. I heard the LAPD police chief say that they were called yesterday to protect ICE when they were under attack by rioters and one member of ICE had beeninjured. While LAPD will not help ICE enforce immigration law he said they will respond to calls for protection. The chief said it did not take them 2 hours to respond. but it took them 38 minutes to respond. That is very poor response time.

Believe whomever you please. I don’t trust anything that comes from LA personnel so I’m more inclined to believe what ICE said.