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No One Is Prepared for What’s About to Happen in Canada...

‘It’s Outrageous That You Banned American Products From Your Shelves’​

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OTTAWA — Pete Hoekstra thumbs through an imaginary document, and pauses for effect: “This is a serious proposal — pile one.” Then he raises a second document. “I can’t believe this,” he guffaws. “This is a joke.” Straight to the discard pile.

That, says President Donald Trump’s ambassador to Canada, is how it will go — one way or another — when newly elected Prime Minister Mark Carney submits a proposal on a revamped economic and security agreement with the United States.

“The ball’s in your court,” Hoekstra told POLITICO Magazine in a Thursday sit-down at the U.S. Embassy.

Hoekstra, who left his blazer in his upper floor office, casually fended off queries about Trump’s desire to make Canada the 51st state. He peppered his responses with jokes, even as he was deadly serious at other times about the future of the U.S.-Canada relationship and how he sees his role as ambassador.

A former Michigan GOP congressman, Hoekstra was born in the Netherlands and served as ambassador to his native land during Trump’s first term. He feels at home in the Canadian capital, which recently celebrated the 80-anniversary of the Dutch liberation from Nazi Germany.

But he’s also feeling hurt by Canadians’ ban of certain American products from their store shelves in the wake of Trump’s trade war and calls for annexation.

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“That is an insult to us,” he said. “We have not done anything like that.”

The previous evening, Hoekstra was seen by a POLITICO colleague holding a 30-minute impromptu meeting with Canada’s finance minister on the sidelines of the opening night reception of the B7, an important subgroup of the G7 summit that Carney is hosting this year.

That’s where we started our conversation, edited for length and clarity. READ INTERVIEW
 
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Trump has a way of living rent free in people’s heads. Canadians were even easier than US liberals.

Why don’t they have more confidence in their own country?
 
Susannah said:
Why don’t they have more confidence in their own country?
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Er, why would they?

Things are pretty grim both economically and demographically in Canada. Then they have a serious problem with all of the immigration they encouraged until it started to eat them alive. Now they even have a political mess, where it isn't clear who really won their last "election" (nothing like electing a President here).

Defense and trade handouts are about the only thing that's kept them alive. Even that isn't enough any more, and at the same time they now have pressure to give up those freebies.

It's the 21st Century! That "king" they kneel to (I have a hard time imagining drooling for the inbred remnants of medieval aristocracy the way some do) even considers it some kind of colonial encampment, saying the Indians still own it.
 
OTHER COLONIES:WHY CANADA DID NOT JOIN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DURINGTHE AMERICAN REVOLUTION

By Daniel Haulman

"When thirteen of Britain’s colonies rebelled against British rule in 1775
and 1776, there were as many as twenty-three British colonies in North
America, seventeen of them on the mainland. In the south of the continent,
there was east and west Florida, which Britain had gained from the Spanish at
the end of the French and Indian War. British islands off North America
included Bermuda, the Bahamas, and Jamaica."

"We think of there being only one country north of the United States today. What is now
Canada was really a set of at least four colonies during the American Revolution: St. Jean’s,
or Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, and Quebec, not to be confused
with the city of the same name within the colony of Quebec. What I want to talk about today
are reasons why Quebec and Nova Scotia, in what is now Canada, did not join the thirteen
mainland colonies farther south in the American Revolution." READ MORE
 
Jacob Petersheim said:
Er, why would they?

Things are pretty grim both economically and demographically in Canada. Then they have a serious problem with all of the immigration they encouraged until it started to eat them alive. Now they even have a political mess, where it isn't clear who really won their last "election" (nothing like electing a President here).

Defense and trade handouts are about the only thing that's kept them alive. Even that isn't enough any more, and at the same time they now have pressure to give up those freebies.

It's the 21st Century! That "king" they kneel to (I have a hard time imagining drooling for the inbred remnants of medieval aristocracy the way some do) even considers it some kind of colonial encampment, saying the Indians still own it.
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Never mind.
 
I don't expect anything to happen. Even the prairie Provinces are probably just trying to negotiate a better deal for the profit-taking of their resources. A vast amount of money by Canadian standards gets appropriated and handed out to the eastern and far western provinces.

It isn't really even organized as one nation very thoroughly up there, legally a far looser confederation than we have in the US. The mindset is actually more foreign than we probably tend to project on it, assuming that it is more similar to here than it really is.
 
Joe Riley said:
OTHER COLONIES:WHY CANADA DID NOT JOIN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA DURINGTHE AMERICAN REVOLUTION

By Daniel Haulman

"When thirteen of Britain’s colonies rebelled against British rule in 1775
and 1776, there were as many as twenty-three British colonies in North
America, seventeen of them on the mainland. In the south of the continent,
there was east and west Florida, which Britain had gained from the Spanish at
the end of the French and Indian War. British islands off North America
included Bermuda, the Bahamas, and Jamaica."

"We think of there being only one country north of the United States today. What is now
Canada was really a set of at least four colonies during the American Revolution: St. Jean’s,
or Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, and Quebec, not to be confused
with the city of the same name within the colony of Quebec. What I want to talk about today
are reasons why Quebec and Nova Scotia, in what is now Canada, did not join the thirteen
mainland colonies farther south in the American Revolution." READ MORE
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