"Climate Change" Hoax Now Being Abandoned?

[Jacob Petersheim]

Looks like it didn't sell, taking the potential profits down with its fall. Bill Gates is one of the bigger names backpedaling on decades of alarmism.

Of course a challenge ahead is deprogramming those of younger generations who have been traumatized by the incessant media blitz that ran so long.

 

[Don Alaska]

They found out that the "green" sources of energy except nuclear will not be adequate to power AI, so the techies are backing off the concept of abandoning the fossil fueled world of reliable energy production.

 

[Dead2009]

The concept of climate change itself isn't the hoax, it's how they presented it. It's too hot in Arizona in July? Climate change. Too many hurricanes in the middle of hurricane season? Climate change.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

The concept of climate change itself isn't the hoax, it's how they presented it. It's too hot in Arizona in July? Climate change. Too many hurricanes in the middle of hurricane season? Climate change.

Actually, it is the hoax.

There is no sea level rise, no alarming bizarre changes in the number and severity of storms, etc. Nothing that can't be accounted for by normal long-cycle changes.

There is all kinds of historical evidence for shifting climate year to year. Many within the last few hundred years. The deindustrialization narrative was all about wealth transfer and controlling the masses.

 

[Marie Mallory]

They found out that the "green" sources of energy except nuclear will not be adequate to power AI, so the techies are backing off the concept of abandoning the fossil fueled world of reliable energy production.

I think the kind of power they want is actually worse on the environment than natural gas and oil.
Also, coal wasn't any worse than some of recent ones.
What is bad for the environment is over population. And in some case's big business, not all of course but some and the places they put some of them.

 

[Axel Slingerland]

Anyone who believes that climate change is a hoax, should be able to explain why it is that in the coldest parts of the world, the ice is melting. If it is not related to changes in the overall temperature of the planet, why does that happen?

It clear to me that if they can not explain that in verifiable scientific terms for cause and effect, that they are not qualified to say that climate change is a hoax. If climate experts don't have any other explanation, what makes amateurs think they can come up with one?

This is the polar Ice Cap in 1980 on the left, and in 2012 in the right. Remember, this is in one of the coldest parts of the world.

 

[Don Alaska]

The north polar ice cap was melted in part due an undersea volcano off Greenland and Iceland that has been erupting for years. That is never mentioned in the media because it doesn't fit the narrative, and perhaps why most of the photos of the ice are 2012 and before. The ice appears to have stopped melting and started growing again since then on both poles. You can find data for whatever you want on the internet, but there are some satellite pics showing ice growth. The undersea volcano that was warming the Artic Ocean has returned to dormancy, so I suspect the ice growth will continue. I saw reports that Siberia was experiencing record cold (for this time) at the moment , but fortunately the jet stream position is preventing us in Alaska from experiencing the "benefits" of said cold. Winters up here have been warmer than in previous years, so there may be some climate warming also. There have always been cyclical changes and glacial growth is due more to precipitation than temperatures although the temps at the terminal end of the glacier's do influence the rate of melt.

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[Joe Riley]

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

There are also old maps made by copying older maps. They show things like the ice-free coastline of Antarctica.

 

[Yvonne Smith]

Here is a chart that sows the sea levels since the last great glacial age happened. You can see that for the last couple thousand years, it has barely changed.
Scientists say that the sea levels since is raising one foot every hundred years, so even if that happened, it is going to take a lot of centuries of ocean levels rising before we start drowning, even at lower land areas.

 

[Don Alaska]

As a rule, global warming is a good thing. Warm periods such as the Roman Warm Period and the Medieval Warm Period were times of abundance and population expansion. By contrast, the cooler times like the "Little Ice Age" are times of crop failures, starvation and famine. I read that the Little Ice Age was the reason that people in Northern Europe began growing rye and barley. During warm periods, wheat was the main crop throughout Europe even into Scandinavia. Cols made the wheat crops fail and drove the Vikings out of Greenland.

 

[Marie Mallory]

As a rule, global warming is a good thing. Warm periods such as the Roman Warm Period and the Medieval Warm Period were times of abundance and population expansion. By contrast, the cooler times like the "Little Ice Age" are times of crop failures, starvation and famine. I read that the Little Ice Age was the reason that people in Northern Europe began growing rye and barley. During warm periods, wheat was the main crop throughout Europe even into Scandinavia. Cols made the wheat crops fail and drove the Vikings out of Greenland.

I hear some of the Vikings are still in Iceland, which is warmer than Greenland. I also read the Vikings originated in Israel then ravaged every nation they visited for many years. Until they settled down and became European's.

 

[Don Alaska]

The Vikings originated in Scandinavia and ravaged plenty from there. They were great traders and basically established the country of Russia. Iceland never had the collapse experienced by Greenland and the Vikings were apparently the first humans to dwell in Greenland. The Intuits, however, arrived not too long after the Vikings and they were much better equipped to deal with the cold when the climate changed. The Vikings were trying to hold onto the lifestyle they had been living for the previous centuries and couldn't adapt to the cold as well. As far as I can determine, the Vikings never lived in the Middle East for long periods, but they undoubtedly visited there. I think some of the history you read was a bit off.