Are We Really The First?

[Jacob Petersheim]

First human civilization to reach something near our levels of technology.



The left half is highly compressed compared to the right, which is expanded to make room for notations. The more discoveries we make, the further to the left nearly every marked milestone moves leftward.

But even considering just the right portion, that's a long time for people being basically identical to us biologically. Newer DNA evidence also suggests that "Neanderthals" were probably much more of a racial group than a separate species anyway.

Weather and geologic processes can erase an awful lot over time. Who knows what may be buried, under deep waters, or ground away?

To me smelted iron and early steel seem to be key accomplishments. Without saws, various planes, and shavers it is hard to do a lot with wood. Making boards helps a lot in shaping consistent fired bricks in quantity.


I guess I have to marvel that humanity has only gotten our act together once in all of time. Doesn't it seem likely that we've "ascended" similar paths many times, only to be knocked back again by cataclysmic events?

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Here is the current dating of a "new" very old site. In theory this site was active about the time the population was first moving from nomadic to settled and farming.

Considering the full time scale, doesn't it seem a little "iffy" to imagine people very very much like us were too dumb to figure out how to raise and harvest crops until about then? Nowhere in the world?

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

I find it interesting that "new" discoveries in places like Egypt are now being admitted and "declassified" for the public. Much of this was known as early as 1953, but for whatever reason it was cast as pseudoscience and wild speculation, and suppressed.

Deep beneath the pyramids at Giza there is a huge "city" and many "tunnels" as well as what seems to be ancient advanced technology. Great cylindrical pillars from 50 to 300 meters high, possibly hollow, possibly with exterior staircases spiraling around them.

Ground-penetrating RADAR has been used to map some of this now, and the things "seen" this way match up with the written "fringe" archeology on constructions beneath Giza. There are hints of the same among 4000 year old hieroglyphics which were re-interpreted in mystical and religious terms following their discovery as early as the 1920s.

My guess is that access to the subterranean levels will be restricted, severely limiting what detail might be discovered. It may even be left sealed to ensure that it remains a mystery until existence can be suppressed once again.

So as things stand it is hard to do anything but guess about what's down there or what it means, where the "tunnels" (or roads) might lead, when the complex was constructed, by whom, its purposes, etc.

 

[Yvonne Smith]

I have been reading about the discovery of the columns below the Giza pyramids also, and it is in one of the threads here somewhere on the forum. It appears that we have had highly educated civilizations before, and something happened to where it had to start over. Things like an ice age, volcanic eruptions, or large meteor strikes have apparently vastly changed civilization in the past.
There is also the possibility of extra-terrestrial input that changed earlier civilizations. I find it interesting that we have people living in isolated areas of the world who still live a very primitive lifestyle, and have never developed beyond that over all the eons of time, while in other places we have advanced civilizations who come up with new things every day.
When you research ancient Tartaria, and look at some of the old buildings, there are designs, statues, and paintings t at we are not able to reproduce even today with all of our modern technology.
Here is an artist’s rendition of what it might look like underneath the pyramids.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

There seems to be so much left to discover and even sorting out what we have and assembling the puzzle leaves a lot of room for possible interpretations.

Now there are new anthropological finds that suggest not only populations flowing out of Africa but others flowing in from outside. For all we know our "point of origin" might be anywhere on the planet, and that might be one of the least interesting questions anyway. Perhaps there was divergence following one or more falls of prior global or regional civilizations. "Out of Africa" seems to leave groups like Neanderthal arising out of thin air.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Unrelated (?) but I'm hearing a lot of chatter now about the CIA, remote viewing, and the Ark of the Covenant being real and that its location has been known to them since the 1980s.

Another distraction? Supposedly this is coming from 1988 CIA documents that have recently been "rediscovered."

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Interesting corroboration and additional details. Not just under one pyramid, but much of Giza. A theory that the structures and tunnels were about water, though not simple drainage or irrigation, etc.