Ancient Americas

[Jacob Petersheim]

There is an awful lot of controversy around the routes, dating, and patterns of settlement of the Americas.

Orthodoxy insists on a narrative of Asiatic inflow through a "Beringian" land bridge joining Alaska to Asia during intervals of lowered sea levels. Movement beyond that came later, and currently it seems to be doctrine that Beringia was magically ice-free but at some point a corridor through the glaciation allowed migration southward.

There also seems to be some acceptance now of a "kelp road" migration down the coast and shallow coastal waters.

The problem is, lots of evidence exists which those explanations can't account for.

Times and dating often make no sense. For example some areas supposedly under a mile of ice have shown human occupation during those dates. Technologies in tools, pottery, and construction often make no sense. More advanced relics are often found in deeper and earlier layers below the more primitive.

Things like DNA evidence also raise many questions.

It's almost as if there had been many, often entirely separate groups of early American peoples. But oh, we can't have that!

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

Who mined out the copper? And where did it all go?

We’ve Found Something Strange in Prehistoric America

New studies indicate that "Otzi the Iceman" had a copper axehead that may have come from Lake Superior.

 

[Don Alaska]

I have long been a heretic as to the races and populations around the world. The standard "every human originated in Africa" and "North America was populated from Asia" doesn't sit well with me. I have read of an advanced civilization found in South Carolina that dates to prior to the proposed migration from Asia over the land bridge. The was the skeleton found in the Pacific Northwest that appeared to be Caucasian and dated very early as well. In that case, Native American groups took the discoverers to court to stop research on the skeleton and demanded it be buried before real data could be gathered. That certainly seems suspicious. There is some evidence that squashes and peppers with genetic routes in Central and South America were obtained from Persia by the Romans.

To top it all, why are there three major races of humans? Even that question has not been explained well to me. Why do the East Asian races have keratin as a protective skin element when all others have melanin?

 

[Marie Mallory]

Who mined out the copper? And where did it all go?

We’ve Found Something Strange in Prehistoric America

New studies indicate that "Otzi the Iceman" had a copper axehead that may have come from Lake Superior.

I used to study a lot of history and in some of my study.
There seemed to be some proof of Caucasian artifacts here years before the Asiatic people of American Indians arriving here first. True or false I don't know.

 

[Don Alaska]

The archeologists working the South Carolina site posited that the inhabitants' ancestors came by boat or some other craft along the southern edge of the ice sheet from somewhere in Europe and settled along the North American east coast. They were thought to be fairly numerous and civilized but were eliminated by the Younger Dryas impact 12,800 years ago. That made room for the influx of immigrants from Asia.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

I often wonder if there were prior civilizations, perhaps at times global, deep in prehistory. There might well have been some "fall of man" event that beat most populations back to pre-agricultural life.

Geological processes can erase an awful lot of human works given enough time and huge events like glaciation and flooding along with long, long periods of plain old weathering. Even so, things like megalithic remnants of long past times still remain.

Racial differences seen today seem to be the result of long-term isolation of separated populations.

I'm not sold on the story of humanity in the Americas that we're given. I suspect a far longer timescale is involved, possibly with several waves of human population and even animal diversity in general over time. Do we really know that the Mississippi River course was never home to species of apes in the distant past?

Globally things get even weirder. Why does most of Europe have persistent tales of "little people" of one description or another? Why so many myths containing giants? Might there have been separated populations where one averaged much taller and vice versa, then as they intermixed and leveled out stories about each other remained, in murky forms?

 

[Don Alaska]

I often wonder if there were prior civilizations, perhaps at times global, deep in prehistory. There might well have been some "fall of man" event that beat most populations back to pre-agricultural life.

Geological processes can erase an awful lot of human works given enough time and huge events like glaciation and flooding along with long, long periods of plain old weathering. Even so, things like megalithic remnants of long past times still remain.

Racial differences seen today seem to be the result of long-term isolation of separated populations.

I'm not sold on the story of humanity in the Americas that we're given. I suspect a far longer timescale is involved, possibly with several waves of human population and even animal diversity in general over time. Do we really know that the Mississippi River course was never home to species of apes in the distant past?

Globally things get even weirder. Why does most of Europe have persistent tales of "little people" of one description or another? Why so many myths containing giants? Might there have been separated populations where one averaged much taller and vice versa, then as they intermixed and leveled out stories about each other remained, in murky forms?

As far as the races go, i am not sure that we were as isolated over time as has been generally proposed. That is part of the "Evolution as a Religion" thinking. We are just discussing worldwide trade over oceans in prehistory perhaps. That doesn't go along with isolation of groups large enough to form races. The fact that we are all one species seems to indicate different origins or even a creation-type option. There have been small groups of humans in isolation, but to propose everyone coming out of Africa and being that mobile as a group, then following that by saying that the populations then isolated themselves for tens of millions of years to form distinct races. That thinking doesn't come together in my mind.

 

[Jacob Petersheim]

I doubt such long-term isolation was volitional. It seems more likely to me that something forced or enticed migration, then something came along to produce long-term isolation.

Australia comes to mind. Asian migration into the Americas might have preceded a technological fall cutting of travel back and forth for a very long time. So isolating factors might be climactic or social or who can say?

 

[Yvonne Smith]

There is a guy in YouTube who has a program called “my lunch break” and he goes into some of the information about when the older buildings might have been built here in America, and also in other parts of the world.
This is not directly connected with the ancient inhabitants of America, but does fit in with the whole idea that we have not been given an accurate view of our history, or the history of the world.

 

[Mary Stetler]

Who mined out the copper? And where did it all go?

We’ve Found Something Strange in Prehistoric America

New studies indicate that "Otzi the Iceman" had a copper axehead that may have come from Lake Superior.

We have copper artifacts here In Wisconsin along Indian trade 'routes'.