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Are we going to war with Venezuela?

Don Alaska said:
The oil reserves are why China is in Venezuela and that might be the real reason Trump wants Maduro out.
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This is an excellent point, and is probably part of the reason, but Venezuela is where the drug dealers are at, even if it is Columbia that has the cocaine. Those Tren d’Argua drug gang member that Biden brought in were all from Venezuela, and Maduro has been refusing to take them back.
Now, President Trump has forced Maduro into a position where he is capitulating , and will take the gang criminals back, and is also going to testify about Biden bringing them into the US in the first place in some kind of a deal with Maduro.
I think that Maduro is going to be out of there as president soon, too, and we are stopping their drug boats and planes, so everything is already stating to tighten down with the drug-running from there.
 
Yvonne Smith said:
Things are moving along with Maduro. This last weekend, President Trump closed the airspace and had negotiations with Maduro. Since we have been stopping the illegal drugs from coming from Venezuela, things have gotten worse for him, and it looks like he is ready to step down as president as long as he is allowed immunity for himself and his family.

As has been suspected all this time, Biden and Maduro made some sort of a deal and allowed them to send the drug gangs of the Tren D’Argua up into the United States. President Trump and ICE have been catching and removing the drug gangs, but now it looks like Maduro is ready to tell the truth about how Biden brought them up here in the first place.


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He is probably hoping for a deal like the President of Honduras got. Sadly, there are so many countries in South America that make their money from illicit things and are controlled by cartels. How to end it all. I think the president of Mexico said it is not their fault. We should deal with the users in the US and that would end the traffic. :unsure:
 
Mary Stetler said:
He is probably hoping for a deal like the President of Honduras got. Sadly, there are so many countries in South America that make their money from illicit things and are controlled by cartels. How to end it all. I think the president of Mexico said it is not their fault. We should deal with the users in the US and that would end the traffic. :unsure:
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Many of the drugs in the US are from the gangs that came in the Biden presidency. We are finding these people and getting rid of them, but just yesterday I was seeing where they caught a smuggler with a load of trafficked people in his truck, so there are still more to get.
While the drug situation is terrible, the really bad part (to me) is the trafficking of the children and selling them as slaves and prostitutes. As far as I am concerned, they can blow all of those criminals up with my blessing, when they are part of gangs that deal in human trafficking.

There is news every day now about how our law enforcement people are finding these poor children and rescuing them, so whatever President Trump has to do to save the children, I support him doing that.
 
Axel Slingerland said:
I think the reason that doesn't work is simple. The US is already criticized for having the largest prison population in the world. And Officer Greg Hill, of the Eureka PD put it best on the TV Series Speeders. He pulled someone over for speeding. When the guy rolled down the window, pot smoke came billowing out. He could smell it, he knew full well what it was. He wrote the guy a speeding ticket, said please don't drive stoned and left it at that. The cameraman (or someone at least) asked him why he didn't arrest him. His reply was something like "If we arrested every pot smoker and put them in jail, where would we put violent criminals?" That is also why the War on Drugs has failed miserably.

He was just talking about the Humboldt County Jail, of course, and how there were only 417 beds. Humboldt County has a very low crime rate in comparison to some Counties of the same size. In 2014 someone murdered a Catholic Priest in Eureka. The suspect was arrested and taken to the county Jail. Where would they have taken him if the jail was full of minor drug offenders?

After as much traveling as I've done over the course of my life, specially with my band playing all across the country, we saw there are pot smokers everywhere we went. Pot may just be a plant, but the US government lists it as a Schedule 1 drug. The same as Heroin, Cocaine and many other dangerous, highly addictive drugs. And after personally being a pot smoker for 30 years, I laugh at the notion that it is addictive. When I stopped in 1999, I had no withdrawal symptoms at all. Unlike people withdrawing from Heroin. I just stopped and left it at that, never doing anything to do with it except make pot jokes since then. Some horrible case of drug addition, eh?

You've heard of MADD, right? Mothers Against Drunk Driving. We used to joke about HADD, Hippies Against Drunk Driving, for the same reason as Mothers, but also because Americans have been HADD by the government over false comparisons of the dangers of pot vs. Alcohol. Too much Alcohol is extremely dangerous, yet it's legal. Pot is much safer, and it's a Schedule 1 drug.
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I wasn't really talking about pot , although much of pot now is laced with other more addictive drugs.
 
Yvonne Smith said:
This is an excellent point, and is probably part of the reason, but Venezuela is where the drug dealers are at, even if it is Columbia that has the cocaine. Those Tren d’Argua drug gang member that Biden brought in were all from Venezuela, and Maduro has been refusing to take them back.
Now, President Trump has forced Maduro into a position where he is capitulating , and will take the gang criminals back, and is also going to testify about Biden bringing them into the US in the first place in some kind of a deal with Maduro.
I think that Maduro is going to be out of there as president soon, too, and we are stopping their drug boats and planes, so everything is already stating to tighten down with the drug-running from there.
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Drugs are coming from both countries and being transported by sea, air, and land. Bolivia and Peru also produce cocaine. Cocaine isn't the real problem now. It is often fentanyl and other synthetic opioids being funneled into the U.S. and Europe and being mixed with conventional drugs without the knowledge of the user. I think this is being done to undermine and destroy the structure of our society, but that is just my opinion. Someone who believes they are using cannabis, but the cannabis is laced with fentanyl. It changes things and can get the user addicted to the synthetic opioid as well as the mild addiction to cannabis. Venezuela is reputed to be the center of the distribution network through Caribbean with support of the government. When Venezuela became Socialist, the economy there collapsed. It went from being the wealthiest nation in Latin American to among the poorest, mostly due to mismanagement and corruption. The government turned to drug trafficking as the oil industry collapsed when many of the energy companies were kicked out of the country.
 
Mary Stetler said:
Trump was rescuing children even during his first term and hundreds of thousands during his second.
I pray for them every day but how to heal the damage even if returned.....
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I think there are still 100,000 or so lost children that were brought across the border and lost (probably handed over to sexual predators) during the last administration. So very sad....
 
Don Alaska said:
The oil reserves are why China is in Venezuela and that might be the real reason Trump wants Maduro out.
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As soon as I heard about the oil and mineral's they have, I thought the same thing.
I am not that fond of Trump or any other politician.
I just hope for the best for sake of the youth in this nation. although many of them are also nuts.
 
Trump has recently received a letter confirming that Venezuela has been at war with us. Trump was right. The terrorists, drugs, trafficers, crime in our country was planned.
ca.news.yahoo.com

Former Venezuelan spy chief says Maduro runs 'narco-terrorist organisation'

Hugo Carvajal, former Venezuelan intelligence chief, has accused Nicolás Maduro's government of being a "narco-terrorist organisation" and offered to cooperate with US authorities.View on euronews
ca.news.yahoo.com ca.news.yahoo.com
 
Mary Stetler said:
Trump has recently received a letter confirming that Venezuela has been at war with us. Trump was right. The terrorists, drugs, trafficers, crime in our country was planned.
ca.news.yahoo.com

Former Venezuelan spy chief says Maduro runs 'narco-terrorist organisation'

Hugo Carvajal, former Venezuelan intelligence chief, has accused Nicolás Maduro's government of being a "narco-terrorist organisation" and offered to cooperate with US authorities.View on euronews
ca.news.yahoo.com ca.news.yahoo.com
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China and Iran are both at was with us as well, but we don't really seem to be at war with them.
 
Mary Stetler said:
Part of how China wanted to 'get at' us was through Venezuela, although any South American country will do.
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China had control of the Panama Canal as well. Trump supposedly "fixed" that, but.... They were charging U.S. warships and U.S.-flagged carriers extra to transit the canal. I think that is fixed as it was part of a treaty signed by Carter when he handed the Canal over to the Panamanians who subsequently sold it to the Chinese. I think under the treaty, U.S. warships get priority free transit of the canal, and U.S. carriers cannot be charged more than other countries. U.S. also has the right to reacquire control of the Canal if U.S. security is threatened with military force if needed.
 
Nancy Hart said:
Brooks and Capehart - PBS News Hour (12/5/25)

10 minutes
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I said this right off,
Sometimes even a stopped clock is correct, I agree with the lib, show us the evidence!
We have the most sophisticated tech in the world, how hard would it had been to prove they were hauling drugs? I do believe they were, by the way.
 
Mary Stetler said:
You can't give away your plans ahead of time.
Don't you think this will disuade future drug traffic?
Trump DID end the overland border crossing of drugs
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You also cannot give up your sources of intelligence. To do so may well endanger assets' lives and the Democrats know it. That is why they are bringing this up. Next they will want the NSA to tell them what they can do too. Since much of it cannot be made public, it is a good point to use with the more naïve among us.
 
I didn't know where to put that video. Chose this thread only because the discussion starts with Venezuela, but I think the last segment is the most important. I concentrated on what Brooks (the conservative) said...throughout, but especially the final segment.
 
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We have just taken a huge oil tanker from Venezuela that was NOT supposed to be moving or selling any oil. They are saying that it is the largest one we have taken down, and this is going to make things even worse for Maduro.
 
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